Thursday, April 03, 2008

Sauce for the Goose…

…is sauce for the Gander. Or so they say.

For all those Christians upset about the limitation to their “Freedom of Speech” as portrayed in Expelled the Movie or how scientists who hold to creationism are treated by their evolutionary associates:

Friends Defend Ousted Teacher

Grand Rapids -- Filmmaker and anthropologist Graham Townsley could not believe it when he heard his friend, Kent Dobson, lost his job after hosting a historical documentary about Jesus.
"We bent over backward to be really careful and not make crazy assertions," Townsley said of the Discovery Channel program he made with Dobson last summer in Egypt and Israel. "We were so careful to be respectful."

Dobson, the 31-year-old son of retired Calvary Church pastor Ed Dobson, resigned his post as Bible teacher at NorthPointe Christian High School last week after the school board questioned his role in the March 16 special, "Jesus: The Missing History."

On the hourlong program, Dobson questioned biblical scholars on possible contradictions between the Gospels and the historical evidence of Jesus' life. The questions included:

Was Bethlehem Jesus' birthplace?
Was Jesus a carpenter or a stone mason?
Was Jesus' eviction of money changers from the temple a political or religious move?
Is there any truth in the Gnostic gospels?

In the program, which is not scheduled for rebroadcast, Dobson does not definitively answer the questions or take a position. He interviews biblical scholars who present evidence that contradicts the Bible.

"You see, when I was a kid, we were told the four Gospels of the New Testament told you everything you needed to know about Jesus," Dobson says early in the program. "But as I studied the ancient history of my faith, I started coming up with real questions."

Those questions were what led to Dobson's resignation, his father, Ed Dobson, said last week.
Ed Dobson said the board left his son with no choice but to resign.

Kent Dobson, NorthPointe school board President Kevin Belk and other board members have refused to comment on the specifics of Dobson's departure from the private school on the city's Northeast Side. Superintendent Tom Hofman said only that Dobson resigned because it was apparent to all parties involved that statements made on the program were "outside of the school's Statement of Faith."

Carlos Hidalgo, Dobson's friend and former chairman of the NorthPointe school board, said the teacher's desire to delve deep into Scripture is what appealed to his students.

"This is what Kent is all about. You don't hide from the tough questions or turn them aside," Hidalgo said. "Young people look for truth, not just glib answers like, 'We've always done it this way.' He challenges the status quo in a soft, nonbelligerent kind of way," Hidalgo said.

But, once you start asking questions, "all the dominos start falling," said NorthPointe parent and Calvin College professor Don Hettinga. "The unfortunate thing about these events is that they suggest that thinking deeply and asking questions is wrong," he said.

Dobson was recruited nearly two years ago to teach Bible classes to juniors at NorthPointe, formerly Grand Rapids Baptist Schools. He also traveled to Israel with his students and lived there with his family from 2002-05.

NorthPointe has a "Christian world and life view taught from a conservative viewpoint," according to the school's Web site. That's in contrast to Dobson's style of asking questions and digging deep for the truth, friends said.
Article

So…do you really hold Freedom of Speech in such high regard—or only the Freedom of your particular brand of speech?

(H/T to KVO for this story here)

5 comments:

  1. NorthPointe has a "Christian world and life view taught from a conservative viewpoint," according to the school's Web site.

    That kind of says it all, for better or worse. He might be in the same boat as the fat guy who was denied a job at Hooters.

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  2. Ah…so you are saying it is a violation of Conservative Christian Worldview to think? Or ask a question? Hmmmm….

    (And what is the difference between a scientist arguing for a quack theory to be treated differently by his/her colleagues as a Christian teacher who dared to ask [gasp!] if Jesus could possibly have been a stonemason as compared to a carpenter?)

    A double standard in defending the school, but decrying the scientific community. Expected.

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  3. Ah…so you are saying it is a violation of Conservative Christian Worldview to think?

    Exactly. If it were a "liberal worldview" school do you think they'd let Rush Limbaugh teach there?

    Michael Savage screams that liberalism is a mental disorder. I would opine that conservatism is, too.

    It's not about science, Dagoods, it's about the school's worldview as an approach to science. At least they list their limitations on the application. You don't find out down the road the faculty is controlled by a Star Chamber of Darwinists.

    If this was the documentary about Jesus being a stonemason I did see about a half hour of it. I recall he says that Jesus would likely have worked with stone as there was more stone than wood and the carpentry word doesn't differentiate between the two [which is possible]. He said Jesus then must have worked with stone. On the other points I saw he used that same "likely, then definitely" approach that Discovery Channel loves. I call it Horsetrack History revisionism. The "odds are X, then it must be Y". Are you sure they didn't just fire him for doing a sucky documentary? :-)

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  4. Jim Jordan: It's not about science, Dagoods, it's about the school's worldview as an approach to science. At least they list their limitations on the application. You don't find out down the road the faculty is controlled by a Star Chamber of Darwinists.

    It’s funny—creationists are often accused of being unlearned and unknowledgeable. How does this help that cause in any way?

    You DO know that 95% of scientists hold to evolution? (And that is just in the United States. In the rest of the world, it is even higher!)

    Are you seriously saying a creationist goes through High School biology classes, presumably learning biology, and never discovers how many scientists hold to evolution? The same creationist makes it through college, completely unaware that 95% of his/her professors (or more) hold to evolution? Goes through Graduate school and (presuming s/he is in the life sciences) in which 99.9% (or more!) hold to evolution, and they didn’t notice?

    They graduate, get a job at a university and become shocked, SHOCKED I say, to discover that their employers actually hold to evolution? What the heck—were they home-schooled through graduate school?

    First of all, this is demeaning to the creationist education. This would mean they know next to nothing of the theory of evolution which (purportedly) they oppose. Secondly, this fails to grasp the permeation of evolution in the scientific/academic community.

    Thirdly, if I consider “Darwinist” as a derogatory euphemism; will you continue to use it?

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  5. Dagoods,
    I wrote...At least they list their limitations on the application. You don't find out down the road the faculty is controlled by a Star Chamber of Darwinists.

    That was not an indictment of 95% of all scientists but of a small minority [a "Star Chamber" - you must've seen the movie] that for some reason must squash the propagation of theories that contradict their philosophy of science. I did not say that all scientists are Darwinists.

    Anyone who would threaten a successful scientist's career for suggesting that Natural Selection is not the driving force behind change is in bed with the guys who brought Galileo up on charges in my opinion.

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