tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20896717.post7846068058457065843..comments2024-01-25T00:50:10.679-05:00Comments on Thoughts from a Sandwich: Tip the Scales in my FavorDagoodShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04557451438888314932noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20896717.post-79967556495898209282007-05-16T02:46:00.000-04:002007-05-16T02:46:00.000-04:00I think i posted it on the wrong blog but here is ...I think i posted it on the wrong blog but here is your answer for the lukewarm blog that will not let me comment for some reason:<BR/><BR/>DagoodS,<BR/><BR/>Yes I do have references. This is well known and is mentioned in debates <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/3ag85z" REL="nofollow"> debates </A> all the time. All the research and references are in this book, <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/3bnc47" REL="nofollow"> Evidence That Demands a Verdict </A> by Josh McDowell.<BR/><BR/>Even atheists don’t refute it. It is also mentioned on pg 367 of Dan Barker’s Book <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/2l94qu" REL="nofollow"> Losing Faith in Faith. </A> The back of his book has a slew of references for this information but it is common knowledge. Maybe Wiki has it also. lolD. A. N. https://www.blogger.com/profile/11745259115723860852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20896717.post-57828914831851929112007-05-15T02:37:00.000-04:002007-05-15T02:37:00.000-04:00I like your analysis here. You make the important...I like your analysis here. You make the important point that faith and reason are not the opposites of each other, much as postmodern thought has relegated them to such a place.<BR/>As Heather points out, calling attention to extremes seems to justify our position, but often serves to make us feel better by (over)simplifying the issues rather than reflecting a more logical thought process. I, too, have fallen into this trap more than once. It makes for an exciting argument, but not a very enlightening one.jennypohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08885906238155398438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20896717.post-16880227827079740532007-05-14T19:45:00.000-04:002007-05-14T19:45:00.000-04:00**Who is it reading these scales and shouting out,...**Who is it reading these scales and shouting out, “We have Balance!” and how can we know when we have achieved it?** It's simple. You know you've achieved balance when all the sides disagree with you. :) <BR/><BR/>It's always interesting, though, how we can hide our own 'extremes' by focusing on another extreme, such as fundamentalism -- for any religion or mindset. It's a way of assuring ourselves that we'll never be an extreme, because we're not like 'that.'OneSmallStephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08189124855157679020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20896717.post-60327839975304991092007-05-14T15:47:00.000-04:002007-05-14T15:47:00.000-04:00DagoodS,"Moderation in all things." Google offers...DagoodS,<BR/><BR/>"Moderation in all things." Google offers a number of possible sources for the phrase, Terence, Xenophon, Aristotle. Balance seems to be an ancient Greek virtue, and it is only sensible that we have inherited it as part of Western culture.<BR/><BR/>The phrase brings to mind Phil 4:5, which the KJV renders "Let your moderation be known to all men." Other translations use "gentleness" or "forbearance" instead of "moderation," so we might think of the verse as referring to calmness or meekness in the face of trouble, not balance, though KJV-only Christians may misunderstand it to mean this.<BR/><BR/>But as "moderation" describes "avoidance of excess," the current understanding of the word, C.S. Lewis has Screwtape advising a moderated religion. Lewis, then, thinks that balance is inappropriate to faith. From his perspective, the ones calling for balance are the devils, and we know when we have achieved it when we practice a meaningless, Laodicean religion. Even cold disbelief is better than lukewarm balance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com