tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20896717.post1571391280113430322..comments2024-01-25T00:50:10.679-05:00Comments on Thoughts from a Sandwich: Minimum Faith RequiredDagoodShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04557451438888314932noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20896717.post-30267427442574138062008-07-24T17:20:00.000-04:002008-07-24T17:20:00.000-04:00Very good point in comment #2. The only god who's...Very good point in comment #2. The only god who's existence even matters is a god who demands us to be aware of him. No awareness demanded, no worries!<BR/><BR/>So yeah, I'm open, but if a cosmic force were shown to be, it wouldn't change anything. After all, it's been around this whole time without me knowing it, and it will be around long after I'm gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20896717.post-33841716467104693882008-07-24T12:59:00.000-04:002008-07-24T12:59:00.000-04:00John T,Sure, I am open to such a notion. Which ma...John T,<BR/><BR/>Sure, I am open to such a notion. Which makes me about as remarkable as someone who is not, or someone who is ambivalent. In other words—so what?<BR/><BR/>Look, there are difficulties regarding a Creator which is placed on a supernatural plane. By virtue of it NOT being on the only plane I can observe, this makes it completely unverifiable. (As well as any claimed characteristic to be equally unverifiable.) We can’t know a thing about it—even if it exists.<BR/><BR/>Now, with a prime mover, we even place it one more step out of reach, by claiming if it <I>did</I> interact on the natural plane, it did so at a time which is unverifiable—at the initiation of the Big Bang. So we have an unverifiable being (Creator) on an unverifiable plane (Supernatural) performing something which is unverifiable (acting when it is unknowable to us—“prior” [and yes, I know that is the wrong term, but it is the best way I can describe it] to the Big Bang.)<BR/><BR/>Or let me try it this way. John T—are you open to the idea there is a principle on the 22nd Dimension which holds no entity from any other dimension may ever observe the 22nd Dimension?<BR/><BR/>Whether you are “open” to such a notion—it doesn’t make much of a difference does it? <BR/><BR/>I rejected the idea of a deistic God as being both useless and even more unknowable. Could it exist? Like the 22nd Dimension and the principles of the 22nd Dimension (what e’er they may be)—it <I>could</I> exist—but neither the proponents nor the opponents to such a notion could make any claim of any substance about itDagoodShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04557451438888314932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20896717.post-69212853169046715372008-07-24T09:51:00.000-04:002008-07-24T09:51:00.000-04:00DagoodsI know you dont believe in a God, but did y...Dagoods<BR/><BR/>I know you dont believe in a God, but did you ever leave room open for that of a creator or driving force for the Universe, that doesnt get directly involved with us here on earth? Like something that set everything up with a specific format and then lets us go out and try to figure it all out? You know, with consequence and benefit from our actions?Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.com